Reflectors and Thermal Mismanagement
By Daniel Mounsey
Over the past several years, a lot has been said about reflectors and
their thermal behavior. Many of us are aware that cooling fans,
mechanical design, careful collimation, a good mirror cell, good quality
optics, our surroundings and good seeing are just some of the crucial
elements to accomplishing memorable views in modern truss dobsonians.
For example, look at the countless threads regarding collimation here on
CN, all designed to give us that last percentage of purity we strive to
achieve. Why else do we go to so much trouble? Yet many veteran
observers are still being eluded by a few serious problems, either
ignored or not even understood by the ATM’s who build their own truss
dobsonians. In fact some ATM’s even go as far to say that focuser
placement has no effect on image quality. I have decided to share some
videos that really deserve more careful attention and I will discuss
each in an attempt for us to see the bigger picture.
During a
recent comparison I conducted between my high quality 6” refractor and
high quality 14.5” reflector, I invited a couple of friends over. While
doing the comparison, we encountered some serious issues with the
reflectors thermal behavior, in fact Dee Frey of Cloudynights and my
friend John Curry of Astromart were with me during the comparison. It is
my opinion that large, open truss reflectors may not even be capable of
achieving proper thermal equilibrium at all! This is partly due to the
nature of their open design and the people who surround them at star
parties, not to mention the heat that rises off the pavement and crawls
into the optical path. After conducting countless tests, I am convinced
that large aperture reflectors require special attention if they are to
perform remarkably well or more efficiently.
Truss reflectors
can experience moments where they perform incredibly well on Jupiter,
Saturn the Moon and multiple stars, but by no means consistently well.
While we scrutinize these particular targets, we are more often reminded
that something just isn’t right, something is still out of place. Why
can’t we just get that last 10 or 15% of the image so everything just
snaps right into place and just holds there, suspended like a pinball?
Sure, the aperture is incredible on certain deep sky targets but truss
dobs in general are almost always hindered by this subtle noise or
static that annoys us at times. The tips that follow are still no
guarantee fixing this, but there is one thing these tips certainly will
do. They will help us reduce certain thermal factors that plague the
truss design, the telescopes that treat us to so few, good planetary
nights, but those once in a while life time memories do remain vivid in
our minds.
THE FIRST BUT SHORTER LIVED CULPRIT
I’ve
decided to share the first common over-site that still remains today.
Did you know that the secondary central obstruction has pretty much been
ruled as a low priority culprit to images being degraded, in fact tests
by very reputable and highly respected observers have even verified
this by suspending obstructions in front of refractors and were still
getting incredible image quality, however these tests are still not
conclusive for reasons you will see in this video, courtesy of Alan
Garcia and Bryan Greer. Creating your own obstructions for experiments
isn’t quite the same as a large secondary holder with a mirror in it,
since they don’t store heat the same way. There are a few issues taking
place in this very short video, so lets discuss them. Pay close
attention to what’s going on here. In the back ground you will notice
the jet stream, flowing from right to left across the entire field. This
can be checked via CRWS http://squall.sfsu.e…eam_init_00.gif but it’s not the problem I’m discussing.
We will ignore the boundary layer over the surface of the primary optic
and look very carefully at the secondary support housing. Although
short lived compared to the primary optics, secondary thermals can still
exist and bleed off like solar eruptions seen in this video. Look
directly at the edges of the secondary housing. Imagine in your mind how
much improved the image would be were it not for the support system
resting in the optical path. Regardless of what many of us say or think,
central obstructions can easily degrade image quality, more so because
of their thermal behavior in these larger 15” and 30” reflectors. Many
of us resort to math to try an dispel the central obstruction myth but
that math we are reading does not account for thermal behavior. http://www.fpi-proto…vids/clip03.mov
THE SECOND, MOST PROFOUND AND LONG LIVED CULPRIT IS “YOU”
Now the next two videos will reveal one of the biggest problems open
truss tubes face. I know some observers may laugh when I ask them to
please step away from the telescope while I’m scrutinizing certain
objects, but I’m really not exaggerating when I say that. Those who
laugh are not even close to being aware of the problems they are
causing. Pause for a moment and ask yourself why we spend thousands of
dollars on high quality mirrors, fans and expensive collimating tools,
yet we completely forget that we ourselves can be many times more
problematic than the thermal on the mirrors themselves. Since we
understand that a primary optic in a reflector just 2 deg F. above
ambient temperature can have a boundary layer, then take a good look at
YOU. At least a mirror has the potential to acclimate, but YOU do not.
So, are you going to attach several fans to yourself and freeze? No, but
there is something you can do.
During my tests I measured and
noted several temperature readings of myself, the ground and my
reflector. All measurements taken at 7:30pm
1.) Ambient air temperature at 61 deg. F
2.) My 10” dob has a thin mirror just 1” thick. It too was also 61 deg. F and settled down fast.
3.) My own body heat and head 72 deg. F
4.) Pavement was 65 deg. F
5.) The back of my hand 89 deg. F
6.) Inside of my hand 93 deg. F
By 11:15 pm the main differences were as follows.
1.) Pavement 61 deg. F
2.) 10” primary optics 55 deg. F
3.) Ambient air 55 deg. F
Now that we have some numbers in place, let’s discuss what we are doing
wrong here. If a mirror that’s just 2 deg. F above ambient temperature
can allow a boundary layer to creep into the image, then how can we
expect our own body heat not to be a major source of the problem too,
especially when our head and hands are 30 to 40 deg. F above ambient
temperature? Not to mention that they don’t even acclimate like a mirror
can? When we move our dobs, we sometimes even place our hands over the
upper cage ring and we keep them there while we view, not realizing the
full impact. Thermals that are caused by our own body heat are
PROFOUNDLY destructive to image quality! There is no way we can expect
to stand right next to a huge open optical path or focuser with our
hands on the focuser, right next to the entrance of the optical path and
not have this occur. And in case you are wondering the full impact,
this is exactly what it looks like.
http://www.fpi-proto…ids/rdemolo.mpg
Notice how the currents here are drifting from right to left. It only
takes a very small amount of air to make the currents drift in one
direction. Also know that gloves and thick down jackets also do not stop
these currents from pouring out and across the field of view. There
isn’t even any current light shroud that helps prevent these currents
either. They float right through them just like you see in the videos.
http://www.fpi-proto…r/vids/rslo.mpg
HOW CAN WE SOLVE THIS PROBLEM?
There are several possibilities. The first thing is for each observer
to learn which way the air moves when their seeing is optimal. In my
case, it’s an onshore breeze that moves from west to east. Since the
planets rise from the east and transit towards the south and set towards
the west, then it makes perfect sense to have my focuser placed on the
left hand side of the upper cage assembly so my body is now placed,
strategically downwind. If your seeing conditions never experience this,
then it probably doesn’t matter since you are not going to get stable
air flow or seeing anyway.
For years I often wondered why
every single ATM places there focusers on the right hand side of their
upper cages, so I conducted a survey of my own and learned that almost
every observer is left eye dominant see here.
http://www.cloudynig…ll/fpart/1/vc/1
This probably explains one of the reasons ATM’s continually do this.
ATM’s should always offer the option to decide this if customers expect
their moneys worth. My point is that there are a number of observers who
are adamant that aperture rules. Well, that depends on your definition
of what excellent views are really all about.